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> Alert: Fur/diane Arbus Piece In Vanity Fair, with Hilary Swank on cover
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post Jul 8 2006, 02:20 AM
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http://www.vanityfair.com/
If you click on the cover magazine on the VF site, you can see it mentioned on the cover.

VANITY Fair's got a piece on the late photographer Diane Arbus, who is memorialized in the coming $19 million film "Fur." Patricia Bosworth tells how her book made it to the screen starring Nicole Kidman. Naomi Watts and Toni Collette were up for the role. Also Samantha "In America" Morton, who blew it when her price was too high. Also Meg Ryan until she told the producers she'd really rather play poet Sylvia Plath. Originally the project was attached to Streisand, who wanted to direct plus play Diane. The joke then was that the movie would get retitled "The Singing Photographer." Anyway, Bosworth sent Nicole an Arbus self-portrait taken at age 21. Nicole's faxed thank you was: "It's a great inspiration."

http://www.nypost.com/gossip/cindy/cindy.htm

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post Jul 8 2006, 02:23 AM
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Thanks Skanky! Hopefully someone will be able to scan it for us!


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post Jul 8 2006, 02:28 AM
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Thanks for that, skanky. (Samantha Morton's asking price was too high...compared to Nicole's? Morton is a terrific actress, but as far as salary I didn't even think they existed in the same solar system as one another.)
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post Jul 8 2006, 02:33 AM
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QUOTE(RedSatinDoll @ Jul 8 2006, 02:28 AM)
Thanks for that, skanky.  (Samantha Morton's asking price was too high...compared to Nicole's?  Morton is a terrific actress, but as far as salary I didn't even think they existed in the same solar system as one another.)
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They aren't, Morton might have been asking for more. NK is known to reduce her price considerably for her indies so they didn't need to worry about that. They should count themselves lucky, Morton has been sacked from 2 projects this past year due to bad behaviour and almost derailed another (River Queen) causing the director to leave the project.

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post Jul 8 2006, 02:36 AM
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Thanks Skanky for the article happy.gif


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post Jul 8 2006, 02:54 AM
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Thanks for letting us know. Sounds like it will be an interesting read.


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post Jul 8 2006, 02:56 AM
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thanks skanky! rose4.gif

I think it's time to PictureHouse release a trailler. If the movie comes out in November, 4 months ahead, they should start realeasing Teasers, Traillers and posters. I can't wait for the movie.


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post Jul 8 2006, 02:58 AM
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QUOTE(nathalia @ Jul 8 2006, 02:56 AM)
thanks skanky!  rose4.gif

I think it's time to PictureHouse release a trailler. If the movie comes out in November, 4 months ahead, they should start realeasing Teasers, Traillers and posters. I can't wait for the movie.
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It's still summer, not many people will notice it, it'd just be a waste of money on promotion. People are still watching and talking about summer movies.


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post Jul 8 2006, 04:19 AM
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'Glad that Nic got the part. It looks like a very powerful movie to me. Thanks skanky for the link.

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post Jul 8 2006, 04:32 AM
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QUOTE(skankyoldwhore @ Jul 7 2006, 12:33 PM)
They aren't, Morton might have been asking for more. NK is known to reduce her price considerably for her indies so they didn't need to worry about that.  They should count themselves lucky, Morton has been sacked from 2 projects this past year due to bad behaviour and almost derailed another (River Queen) causing the director to leave the project.
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REALLY? I didn't know that, thanks. (The director left? I guess this particular director was lower down on the food chain?)

QUOTE(nathalia @ Jul 7 2006, 12:56 PM)
thanks skanky!  rose4.gif

I think it's time to PictureHouse release a trailler. If the movie comes out in November, 4 months ahead, they should start realeasing Teasers, Traillers and posters. I can't wait for the movie.
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skanky's right about it being too soon in the season, nathi. I know I almost never go into the theaters between May and September because there's nothing to see - I'm not the summer audience. I think we'll see a trailer come September (especially if the test audience reactions are really as positive as we've been reading.)
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post Jul 8 2006, 04:35 AM
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$19 million is not a high cost to make a movie. If Nicole's name typically draws people in at the beginning (I read usually about $20 million box office the first week), the cost of making the movie should pay for itself the first week (hopefully....and hopefully it will pay for itself many times over). I would like Nicole to get some nominations for awards and secure some more roles well into the future. She is too talented to be passed over for choice roles. (and as far as the magic number 40, "40-year old actresses (supposedly) don't get roles", Nicole doesn't look anywhere near 39, she looks more like she's in her twenties.)

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post Jul 8 2006, 04:43 AM
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QUOTE(gracie @ Jul 8 2006, 04:35 AM)
$19 million is not a high cost to make a movie.  If Nicole's name typically draws people in at the beginning (I read usually about $20 million box office the first week), the cost of making the movie should pay for itself the first week (hopefully....and hopefully it will pay for itself many times over).  I would like Nicole to get some nominations for awards and secure some more roles well into the future.  She is too talented to be passed over for choice roles.  (and as far as the magic number 40, "40-year old actresses (supposedly) don't get roles", Nicole doesn't look anywhere near 39, she looks more like she's in her twenties.)

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This is not the kind of movie that will make its money back in the first week, it will probably do the same business as Birth if released mid-range or lower if released in very limited number of cinemas a la The Hours and then make its money as it goes along. NK can open a mainstream movie in the summer to the tune of $20m but a Fall movie is different since it isn't the kind of movie everybody rushes out to see and it is rated R. Very few Fall movies make their money back or make substantial profit. Birth, Dogville, Cold Mountain were barely successes. As for securing roles, NK doesn't need to worry about securing roles, she has directors and producers lining up to work with her, she has her own production company, there is little chance of being passed over for roles in the future, very few performers have directors and producers battling with studios for them.

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i didnt know she had her own production company... what is it called?


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i didnt know she had her own production company... what is it called?
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Blossom Films.


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Gosh - I learn something new with every thread. Skanky you are a walking encyclopedia. My hats off to you lady.

I'm just as glad Morton played the money game - it's the true artiste that worries not about the fee in order to further her craft. After all, the legacy you leave is not how much money you amassed but the work you left behind. That is the heart and soul of a true artiste. Such is Nicole. Grab a plum role if you're an actress and revel in it already regardless of what they pay you!!

I'm very much looking forward to this movie. happy.gif

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QUOTE(RedSatinDoll @ Jul 8 2006, 04:32 AM)
REALLY?  I didn't know that, thanks.  (The director left?  I guess this particular director was lower down on the food chain?)
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Morton is a great actress but also very problematic. She was meant to be in Pride and Glory, a movie that was shooting around April/May, she was told to leave and replaced by another actress because she was being very difficult, I can't remember the name of the other one but she was booted off, too. She caused a lot of problems on the set of River Queen, so much trouble that the director left, only for the cinematographer to pick up the job and then the director came back for the wraps and editing work, this story has been widely reported before River Queen was released, thankfully, the movie apparently turned out fine.


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On ET they talked to the author of the book the movie is based from, and talked about all the stuff we knew already(how long it took to make it, who else was being considered for the role, etc) BUT they did show the pics of Nicole and Robert Downey Jr. we have never seen before, and the article itself looked pretty long.

I'm ready for some scans, LOL.
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QUOTE(skankyoldwhore @ Jul 8 2006, 04:43 AM)
This is not the kind of movie that will make its money back in the first week, it will probably do the same business as Birth if released mid-range or lower if released in very limited number of cinemas a la The Hours and then make its money as it goes along.  NK can open a mainstream movie in the summer to the tune of $20m but a Fall movie is different since it isn't the kind of movie everybody rushes out to see and it is rated R.  Very few Fall movies make their money back or make substantial profit.  Birth, Dogville, Cold Mountain were barely successes.  As for securing roles, NK doesn't need to worry about securing roles, she has directors and producers lining up to work with her, she has her own production company, there is little chance of being passed over for roles in the future, very few performers have directors and producers battling with studios for them.
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Skanky, Birth was a Box Office flop as far as what I've read...do you think Fur will be considered a box office flop, also? I sure hope not! I mean the bankability of an actor is really important in their career and I'd *do not like* to see all of Nic's movies do poorly at the box office.
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QUOTE(gracie @ Jul 8 2006, 01:02 PM)
Skanky, Birth was a Box Office flop as far as what I've read...do you think Fur will be considered a box office flop, also?  I sure hope not!  I mean the bankability of an actor is really important in their career and I'd *do not like* to see all of Nic's movies do poorly at the box office.
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Bankability is not important to a career, it is important to the few who choose to let it run their career. If you look at NK's work, it is mostly indies/arthouse/mainstream dramas, these don't make money and Nicole has never had any bankability since she arrived in Hollywood 16 years ago because she rarely makes movies people go to see in droves, it is only recently that she has been able to open a movie at about $20m, she was never able to do that. People who hire NK for their movies, hire her for her talent not the fact that she can make hits, infact, she has only had about 3 hits after the combined domestic and foreign BO. People who hire her know that whether they pay her small or large amounts of money, she will give them all she has got, that's why Joel Silver paid her $16m after Bewitched flopped, it didn't matter, they are paying for what she can do because the directors, producers demand that it is her they want. That's why she can work on a movie with a budget of $10m and get a very low salary for it without much drama. She has been in Hollywood for 16 years, she is not known as a hit maker, she is known as an actress with predigree. She has more flops/disappointments compared to hits but it is the strength/weaknesses of those movies that are analysed, not how much they made, really. Infact, like polaris said once, if she chooses to simply make her small, more complicated films, she'd be better off, sure the money will be significantly low but her work would continue to be great.

Actors/actresses (Movie stars) don't stop making movies because the movies flop, actors/actresses stop making movies because their work doesn't have much to it and all they are known for is the last hit movie they made, not the kind of work they do or did.

Fur is not going to be a big opener, it will be a pleasant surprise if it makes its money back. Her not making hits is not something that her fans should worry about, NK doesn't worry about it either. She has said on many occasions, her BO is not what makes her career, it is the work she does that makes her career.

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QUOTE(RedSatinDoll @ Jul 7 2006, 10:28 AM)
Thanks for that, skanky.  (Samantha Morton's asking price was too high...compared to Nicole's?  Morton is a terrific actress, but as far as salary I didn't even think they existed in the same solar system as one another.)
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Red - my thoughts exactly! lol.gif I have just skimmed the piece in VF (I'm a subscriber) and from that brief perusal, I see that Nicole's interest was like a magic touch in getting this project out of a long limbo (20 odd years of changing hands and disappointing turns) into actuality. I am most impressed, though not surprised, that Nicole's interest or perhaps even the indication of her interest can revive a project. I CAN'T wait to see this film. I have high expectations.
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