Many thanks to Livia for these scans , and to centergirl for also scanning for us. And thanks to skanky for the tipoff. I decided we needed a new topic for the scans to make them the first post on the topic.
I will put the Entertainment Tonight clip on the Vanity Fair here in this post as well. That should come shortly.


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Vanity Fair

OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank you so much foxy for posting them, and thank you Livia and centergirl for scanning them!!!!!

I'm off for a good read.

There is a lot to read! Looks interesting. I was going to hold off until after the film release but may change my mind

As there has only been one post after the scans, I can add this as a new post.

The video for the Entertainment Tonight segment on this is now in the video section for those few who have not seen it.


To get to the video topic click on the following link (you need to be logged in)

http://www.nicolekidmanunited.invisionzone...?showtopic=4747

thanks so much foxy! that was amazing. i can't wait for this movie. nicole looks amazing. for some reason, i can't imagine this film being made into a musical starring streisand. when will it really be released? i keep hearing either october or november and i'm confused. one thing's for sure, i can't wait for another amazing performance from nicole (and robert and the rest of the cast)

Well, after all that it does not seem to have generated much interest! Is it because I did not manage to get onto the computer until well after Livia and centergirl had kindly sent me their scans? My one morning off from checking the computer before breakfast, wouldn't you know it. Sorry Livia and centergirl. I appreciate them very much

WOW thank you!!!!
I like very much the articles!!

Thanks for the scans.

Robert Downy Jr was on Inside the Actors Studio last night and they spoke about Fur and was ask what it is like to work with Nicole, in this movie



That was all that was said about Nicole, they usually rebroadcast the show before the new episode each Sunday.

I can not wait to see this movie.

Thanks Livia and centergirl. It is a beautiful and intriguing article. I particularly enjoyed her description of the ghostly self-photograph and how it seems that hit a chord with Nicole and inspired her portrayal. I am looking forward to the movie more than ever. Talk about a labor of love from the author....oh my!

Foxy, thank you very, very much for your hard work to scan and post the long article in Vanity Fair on Fur. I have been eagerly waiting on these scans. I'm copying these to my hard drive and looking forward to reading the article. It's great to have more information on Fur.

My gosh, thanks foxy!! I want to read about fur so badly :).
xxx

Foxy, I just started to read it - I just discovered this thread a minute ago - but let me add my thanks to you right now for posting this, and to livia and centergirl for the scans, and to skanky for the tip-off (whew! Am I forgetting anyone? I hope not.) Just skimming the first page I see a lot in Bosworth's description of Arbus that reminds me of Nicole, especially how Arbus had a way of drawing people out and making them feel like they were "they most important person in the world." That stopped me dead in my tracks because I have heard that phrase used to describe Nicole so many times.

Just as a reminder, Mary Ellen Marks was one of the photographers who worked with Baz on PR shots (the Little Red Book) for Moulin Rouge; (her photos can be seen on the second disk of the special edition, and in the Moulin Rouge photo book at the booksellers.')

It's a wonderful thing to see the work of authors valued, especially in the movie industry; Nicole is one of the few "stars" today who really values the author in any given project. (And btw, $17 mil sounds like a lot of money to a Jane Shmoe like me, but it wouldn't pay for one minute screentime of your basic Hollywood summer "blockbuster".)

I'm sure I'll have more to say once I've read the entire article - but now I really AM starting to get excited about this project (as if I weren't already.) This article is a brilliant bit of PR - the filmmakers have a clear idea of who their audience is (and it's not the general masses, frankly, or the schoolkids) and are using this article to target them (i.e. us) directly. If this marketing is an indicator of the general quality and intelligence of the film, then we are in for a treat.

Thank you so much to livia for the scans, centergirl, foxy and skanky!!

Don't have time to read it now! (gotta go packing!)
But' I'm sure it will be a lovely read!

thank you so much for the scans...
ciao

many thanks to livia/centregirl & foxy for the scans - they are so beautiful... i must get the magazine now!!

Oh, thanks for the scans - I'm definitely gonna pick up a copy of this mag.

BTW, sparkling diamond, I love the pic of Nicole you have as an avatar

THANKS!

THANK YOU FOXY!!!!!!

I THINK THIS MIGHT BE MY FAVORITE MOVIE... BUT WE'LL JUST HAVE TO SEE! LOL

interesting article.i don't know why, maybe it's too early to say this, but i think Diane Arbus will be the character of Nic's life as an actress.I hope she get another oscar, she is fabulous in biographys.

Thanks everyone...

Thanks for the great pics. I can't wait till the movie comes out this fall. It's going to be so good.

Thanks for posting the scans . It is nice that Bosworth liked what she was when she was on the set of Fur .

I thought they were kidding about Streisand's musical on Diane Arbus .

Oh thank u so much Livia, Centregirl & Foxy 4 da scans I will get my copy tomorrow I didn't realise da article was so long

~Viviana~

thank you thank you thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Great!! finally something new about Fur!! I think i'm gonna love this movie like i love "The Hours" :)

Nicole looks so different as Diane in this Magazine.

thank you soooo much FOXY!!! i soo cant wait to see this movie! im so excited!!!

Lauren

Thanks for the scans Livia, Centergirl and Foxy .

Interesting read. When I first saw the photos of Nicole, to me she has a certain look in her eyes...looks like she may have nailed the spirit of Arbus .

There certainly is a "haunted" quality to her eyes in that photo isn't there? Not quite like any other I've seen of Nicole - in any character.

Thanks for the mag news, now i have to buy this mag...lol...

I was thinking the same thing.

My god what that woman can do with just her eyes is astounding.

i just finished reading the whole thing! and i love it! It helped me understand why the title is Fur.... more about Diane and i just loved reading it!

I especially loved when the writer of the Diane Arbus biography was talking about Nicole and how she was prepairing .. this is what she said...



or when she talks about how she was watching nicole on the screen and she had the same look on her face that Diane gave her....

THATS BECAUSE NICOLE IS SUCH A GREAT ACTRESS!!!! OMG SHE BETTER WIN AN OSCAR! I HAVENT EVEN SEEN IT YET .. AND I KNOW THIS! HAHA

Thank You Skanky, Centergirl, Livia and Foxy! From Bosworth's description, it sounds as if Arbus' kindred spirit has been found. The article was also an interesting description of what happens when a writer let's go of her 'baby" and what happens to it along the way. Now I more fully understand Craig Ferguson's disillusionment with the movie industry. He finally had enough of having to compromise his vision and decided to write a novel, because it would be exactly what he wanted to say and would not have to consult with anyone else. He has also said that he will not sell his book to the movies.

thank you so much guys!!! i cannot wait for this movie!! i am so excited for it!!

thanks guys i'm so excited!!

thanks livia and centergirl! i definitely agree. she's so great. in my opinion, she's one of the very few who can do subtlety exquisitely and right on. the movement of the eyes, a glance, her body language... she can also scream and yell and cry in showy scenes. she can do both with such ease that you don't want to question how she does it. you sort of just marvel at her incredible talent and watch in such awe. that, i think, is the epitome of a great actress and she certainly is. that photo and the one that headed her vogue september 2003 spread with her thumb on her mouth (my current avatar)are some of the best pictures that capture such raw emotions in a snap! those are some of my favorites and i instantly responded to the one featured in vanity fair. can't wait for this movie.

i also wanted to add something after i saw the et video and towards the end the movie "the devil wears prada" was briefly mentioned. i saw that when it came out and meryl's character reminded me of joanna from the stepford wives (during the first part of the movie where she's an insensitive unlikeable executive). i had a realization, nicole and meryl are so much alike. i know this has caused debate and the comparison have been mentioned but it is just sort of uncanny. i can imagine nicole playing miranda (meryl's character in the movie). sure the stepford wives was unpopular but nicole's performance was still great. nic and meryl played strong, almost testosterone driven women but lent them the depth present in every human being, b*tch or not. i just thought i should mention. those are two of the most versatile actresses around and their longevity is unquestionable. looking at their films, one can certainly say that nic could've stepped into all of meryl's roles and meryl could've stepped in all of nic's roles. i'd love to see them act together. now that's a powerful movie pairing!

me too, elegant - i get the feeling it will be like The Hours as far as genre goes - and i LOVE the hours...

Me too Skanky. I can't wrap my head around it!

Red, there was an article with Nicole in Vanity Fair last year and the interviewer Ingrid Sichey (sic) who is a friend of Nicole's too (and discloses this in her article) made plans to meet Nicole who was going to view a Diane Arbus exhibit. Nicole then called Ingrid and said it was something she needed to do alone as it didn't feel right to be accompanied when she was probably trying to just understand Diane and get under her skin. When I read this part of the article, I really understood (as did Ingrid) why it was just important for Nicole to be alone with Diane (i.e., her work)....

She decided not to go see the exhibit, I think because she wasn't portraying Arbus as the eye who'd already captured those images but Arbus as a wife, mother just starting to enter into that world of those images .

Thanks skanky, centergirl, foxy and Livia.

Great Article.
I admit there's been a while since I've been so excited about a NK movie. Fur came to give me faith again on her choices. I can't wait until the movie comes out. November in the USA and I can't even imagine when it opens here. Next year I think.

thanks everyone!

It's been a while since I've pulled out that maggie and read that interview, so thank you for the reminder, Ronnocco. It reminds me of how she spent some time alone at a cottage to prepare for the shooting of her segment of "The Hours" (and to get a mental break from the hullabaloo and trauma re: her divorce.)

It seems to me that Nicole approaches her work reminds of a monk or nun (whether buddist or catholic) going into meditation or devotions, or the way one might approach any spiritual practice. The sense that I get is that there is the practical aspect of learning the lines, getting to know or build a sense of "character", etc and so forth, and then metaphorically opening herself up or "stepping aside" and serving as a conduit or "clear channel" to let the character come forward and speak for herself. That is not to say her "personality" is not involved at all (one might say it is her personality that determines many of her choices at the beginning - why she leans towards certain roles and not others) but in most instances (in her finest performances) it's not "Nicole" we are watching onscreen.

This sense of "separation" may account for some of David Thompson's disappointment (as noted in his book "The Whole Equation") while watching Nicole accept her Oscar for playing Virginia Woolf ("She was a mess"). He was expecting Virginia to have "rubbed off" on Nicole to the extent that she was "transformed" into a more intelligent, more verbally eloquent woman. (I can only surmise that he had never seen her interviewed on Charlie Rose.) That she was changed by the experience, by the "intercourses" between herself and her characters, she herself made and makes clear in interviews. But Thompson I think misunderstands (or misunderstood - I'll see where he stands in his upcoming "bio" of her) the nature of her work and her working methods - as is entirely unfair to expect that a character would transform the actor who plays her in visible, spectacular ways when in fact such "transformations", if they occur at all, are generally of a much more subtle nature.

i haven't read any of his works about nicole. for me, a character is only as good as the actor playing it. it's always a reflection of what they can do, what they've been through, and who they are. there should always, however, be a distinction between them because then, where is the line drawn? it's good to take something out of a character but what nicole has created in most of her characters root from or at the very least was nurtured by her. it seems mr. thompson's ideas are too ideal and are of no basis. i find it quite ridiculous to be "transformed" by a character. if anything, the actress is the one who's supposed to give it life.

As much as I am looking forward to reading Thomson's book on NK, something keeps niggling at me and it is that he WILL NOT give her the credit she deserves. Nicole was an award winning actress before embarking on Hollywood, a teenage award winning actress, and that was not an easy feat. A bimbo as Thomson seems intent on calling Nicole couldn't have achieved what NK did in her teen years an as actress. The term, bimbo, is about as far away from NK as you can get.

Kiki, just as an FYI I'm basing my remarks from chapter 2 of Thompson's "The Whole Equation". I read the chapter months ago and then re-read it recently and found that my initial reaction to it was not mistaken, although I may be accused of misunderstanding Mr. Thompson. I agree very much though with your summary that "Mr. Thompson's ideas are too ideal". That pretty much hits the nail on the proverbial head based on my reading of the chapter. (There's also the sense of embarrassment that a theoretically intelligent, intellectual person - particularly a man, I think - suffers when having to admit that he is a "fan" (such a juvenile, emotional, irrational and/or "female" state of affairs, alas! ), and so he has to contort his admiration just a bit to denegrate the


EDIT: Rereading your last sentence Kiki I am struck anew by the validity of it. I think Mr. Thompson got the dynamic of actor/character quite "bass-ackwards."

I wondered when you'd come 'round here, Professor. Those are my thoughts exactly (ye gods, we are in total agreement?) - and rereading chapter 2 of The Whole Equation did nothing to dispell that same feeling in myself.

Did he expect her to suddenly start behaving like Virginia Woolf all of a sudden? Nicole Kidman will always be Nicole Kidman, if she got emotional when she received her Oscar then good for her, does he think VW wouldn't be moved by her legend and how people revere her if she were able to glimpse and see how people take her work today? Why should NK suddenly start acting like VW? If VW had any influence on her then I do hope the influence doesn't erase who NK is. Thomson is a follower or avid fan of Orson Welles, has he taken up Welles' persona?

yep. and if there even was a transformation or influence, it isn't always so blatant. i'm thinking mr. thompson wanted something tangible and visible which i think is very superficial. from what i've learned about it, i am no longer interested in reading his books. i'd rather make do with smaller infos that have basis and are warranted by those who really think. it's probably fear that has forced him to write those things. maybe while doing (writing) so in the privacy of his office, he's gushing just like a real fan.

i saw this tonight. james lipton said that nicole is exhilarating to watch and when he asked downey what it was like to work with her, downey said after viewing the exhibit, he saw flashes of diane in nicole. after looking at the photo here, downey's comments, your insight, and hearing daldry talk about nicole's ability to maintain an emotional landscape for days on end (with charlie rose), i'm looking forward to seeing her bring diane arbus to the screen.

thank you for the scans!

Thanks for that report, Tex. (Or is it "Miss Tex" to me? ) I don't know why she hasn't been on the Actors Studio - I've never seen it (I don't have cable) and have heard less than flattering things about the host, but now I MUST see Stephen Daldry's interview with Charlie Rose based on what you've repeated. What a brilliant assessment of her work.

red, no need for formalities...tex will do nicely. yes, go back to the interviews with charlie rose. the daldry interview link is on page 2. he said he was actually worried for nicole's well being in the hours because she "drowns" herself in the film. it seemed to go along with the discussion although i know nothing about thompson. can someone point me in the right direction so i can learn a little more?