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Grace Margaret Mulligan
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Opening in New York and L.A., Steven Shainberg's Fur: An Imaginary Portrait of Diane Arbus starring Nicole Kidman and Robert Downey Jr., made $30 thousand in four theatres.

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-  Fur: An Imaginary Portrait of Diane Arbus  PicH  $30,000  4 cinemay $7,500 average  $30,000 total
Bluebell
Thanks, I didn't realize it was just opening in 4 theaters. That seems pretty good for just 4.
skankyoldwhore
Good, that's not bad at all considering how very low key it's been, perhaps now Picturehouse can push its promotion alittle more. Fur is the best opener this week (with per screen average).
Grace Margaret Mulligan
QUOTE(skankyoldwhore @ Nov 12 2006, 09:46 PM)
Good, that's not bad at all considering how very low key it's been, perhaps now Picturehouse can push its promotion alittle more.  Fur is the best opener this week (with per screen average).
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yeah, it hast the best of the new entries. overall certainly not. www.boxofficemojo.com
skankyoldwhore
QUOTE(Grace Margaret Mulligan @ Nov 13 2006, 06:54 AM)
yeah, it hast the best of the new entries. overall certainly not. www.boxofficemojo.com
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That would have been hard to pull off considering its reception lol.gif.
Grace Margaret Mulligan
QUOTE(skankyoldwhore @ Nov 12 2006, 09:57 PM)
That would have been hard to pull off considering its reception lol.gif.
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indeed thumbsup.gif
I think it really did very well, considering the reviews and the lack of publicity. mr. shainberg and mr. downey haven't been very helpful either tongue.gif
it will be interesting once it is released all over the us.
keico2431
That's not bad at all for just 4 theatres. I am so looking forward to seeing Nicole in Fur!
consuelo
QUOTE(skankyoldwhore @ Nov 13 2006, 07:46 AM)
Good, that's not bad at all considering how very low key it's been, perhaps now Picturehouse can push its promotion alittle more.  Fur is the best opener this week (with per screen average).
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Thanks Grace.
janjan
QUOTE(Grace Margaret Mulligan @ Nov 12 2006, 03:54 PM)
yeah, it hast the best of the new entries. overall certainly not. www.boxofficemojo.com
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Wohoo! Third best average after Volver and Borat. happy.gif
BabyNick
Thanx 4 da info Grace huggle.gif

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coolnic
That's pretty good takings for four theatres! But when is it showing in London, anyone?

Thank you Grace Margaret Mulligan! Much appreciated and looking forward to watching it too! clap.gif star01yellow.gif clap.gif
chattyjaz522
Which for theaters NY, LA and....?
Grace Margaret Mulligan
QUOTE(chattyjaz522 @ Nov 13 2006, 11:05 PM)
Which for theaters NY, LA and....?
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I think two in NYC and two in LA
friendlyfox
Box Office for Fur?!

Thanks GraceMM

Limited release to 4 theatres. Will that expand? In Australia it is highly likely this will show in only a low number. Perhaps only 1 cinema in each state. Which means the chances of me seeing it is very low, being nowhere near a major city.

Let us hope the DVD comes out soon.
Bluebell
I am thinking it will expand to most major cities in the US this week.
scruffy
totally awesome!!!! clap.gif clap.gif clap.gif
gracie
For weekend of 17-19 November, Fur earned $49,000 which was a percent increase of +74 percent. It was shown in 32 theaters (compared to four theaters previously) this past weekend. Total earned in two weeks is $90,000. It moved from #53 to #45 in comparison with weekend earnings of 122 movies.

Hopefully, this trend continues so there will be more theaters and more money earned per weekend. happy.gif
NicoleFan17
QUOTE(gracie @ Nov 21 2006, 12:15 PM)
For weekend of 17-19 November, Fur earned $49,000 which was a percent increase of +74 percent.  It was shown in 32 theaters (compared to four theaters previously)  this past weekend.  Total earned in two weeks is $90,000.  It moved from #53 to #45 in comparison with weekend earnings of 122 movies.

Hopefully, this trend continues so there will be more theaters and more money earned per weekend.  happy.gif
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Thanks for the info gracie. It opens wide on Nov. 22nd (which is this wednesday) so I'm hoping I finally get my chance to see it.
nkfan+
Whaa! sob.gif I haven't gotten to see it yet. Unfortunately, it's only showing in one movie theater close to my place and the earliest showing is at 1p.m. I've got to pick up my son from school at 2:30. I was hoping to sneak off with the baby and watch it while my 6 yr old was in school. Maybe I can convice Daddy to watch the kids this Wednessday. (Cross fingers) tongue.gif
Meisha
QUOTE(gracie @ Nov 20 2006, 07:15 PM)
For weekend of 17-19 November, Fur earned $49,000 which was a percent increase of +74 percent.  It was shown in 32 theaters (compared to four theaters previously)  this past weekend.  Total earned in two weeks is $90,000.  It moved from #53 to #45 in comparison with weekend earnings of 122 movies.

Hopefully, this trend continues so there will be more theaters and more money earned per weekend.  happy.gif
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Thanks for the info, Gracie. rose4.gif

Actually, this is trending downward. The 28 additional theaters that opened this past weekend only resulted in $49,000?? That's only $1,750 per screen. Combined with the 4 theaters that opened last week, that meant only $1,531 per theater.
RedSatinDoll
I'd say her paycheck from Happy Feet (and the Chanel commercials) free her up to do work like this that she really wants to do, regardless of box office results. And there will always be a certain amount of potential "prestige" pictures that studios will take a chance on in the hopes of a sleeper hit or an award or two.
elegant_fan
I really hope that it shows at least one theater in ever state... cause i will drive to that theater! I DONT CARE HOW FAR IT IS! lol... i just dont like the fact that these people get to see it and i dont sob.gif haha just kidding. but i really want to see it! sooooo badddd!!...!! rose4.gif rose4.gif rose4.gif rose4.gif rose4.gif
gracie
QUOTE(Meisha @ Nov 21 2006, 12:37 PM)
Thanks for the info, Gracierose4.gif

Actually, this is trending downward.  The 28 additional theaters that opened this past weekend only resulted in $49,000??  That's  only $1,750 per screen.  Combined with the 4 theaters that opened last week, that meant only $1,531 per theater.
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The percentage increase is based on increase in weekend earnings. Majority of movies listed have per theater earnings around $1,500 to $2,000. There are only about six movies out of over 100 that have significantly more than $2,000 per theater. So the earnings per theater for Fur are pretty similar to most of the movies listed.
Meisha
QUOTE(gracie @ Nov 20 2006, 11:27 PM)
The percentage increase is based on increase in weekend earnings.  Majority of movies listed have per theater earnings around $1,500 to $2,000.  There are only about six movies out of over 100 that have significantly more than $2,000 per theater.  So the earnings per theater for Fur are pretty similar to most of the movies listed.
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Gracie, you got me curious so I went and checked the weekend box office results at http://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/. Looking at those results, I would still stand by my earlier statement.

While the weekend total gross of $49,675 is 72.4% better than last week's total gross, one has to factor in that it went from 4 screens to 32 screens. So the per screen average went from $7203 last weekend to $1552 this weekend. Even factoring that per screen average generally drop from week to week, this is still the sharpest drop from Week 1 to Week 2 (78% drop) for an NK film that I could remember. Maybe other members may have a different recollection. I'm sorry to bore everyone with numbers. Old habits die hard, I suppose, as I used to be a financial planner and financial analyst for a major movie studio a long, long time ago. Thank goodness I'm not in that line of work anymore. happy.gif tongue.gif

btw ... I don't want to imply that financial results are everything. There's always other tangibles/intangibles to consider, such as critical acclaim, or even simply be on the "good side" of some key A-listers. happy.gif tongue.gif
In Theory
The expectations for an independent movie are different than mainstream ones.

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skankyoldwhore
Picturehouse need to push it more, movies like this only do well with critical support and Fur doesn't have it so it is up to Picturehouse to push it. Most people don't even know that it exist and half the people who rely on reviews will give it a miss especially if it is a drama, it is the same problem Birth had, and Birth by all comparison was a little more audience friendly or accessible than Fur. It is also a matter of Fur not getting the audience or people refusing to see it, the theatres may also be refusing to show it because they know it won't make them much profit. Most theatres may be screening it just 2ce a day compared to more accessible fares. The first week was great for what the film is, the second week is progressing the same way but because of the names involved, more money is expected to be made, if Jennifer Jason Leigh or even Samantha Morton were to have been in the role rather than NK, this is what it will make perhaps even lower but no one will pay much attention to the numbers.
The_sparkling_diamond
Thanks for the info. happy.gif
I really hope it will come to the cinema in my town!! praying.gif It's so typical that it doesn't!! sob.gif I'll get upset if not!! tongue.gif
gracie
I spent Thanksgiving week in Dallas, Texas. The Dallas newspaper included Fur in a write up of current releases. Only one theater in Dallas had Fur and the only screenings were in the afternoon (two), no evening screenings.

There were also no advertisements for Fur as there were for other current releases. At this rate, Fur will never make money. I know for Nicole that is not the main purpose, but it seems as if making a little profit and having a little more box office success would be nice.
Also, I don't understand why other actresses of her calibre are making movies that are successful at the box office and Nicole has had mostly box office flops in the last three/four years. What does this do to her "bankability" and also, don't all actors need a little affirmation for their work? I kind of feel a little concerned about Nicole with the lack of affirmation in her work.

Since I did not have time to see Fur in Dallas, I guess I'll have to wait till the DVD comes out also, like most of you will have to.

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lowresist
QUOTE(gracie @ Nov 26 2006, 10:58 AM)
Also, I don't understand why other actresses of her calibre are making movies that are successful at the box office and Nicole has had mostly box office flops in the last three/four years.
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I guess it's because Nicole takes more artistic risks than other actresses. I mean if you look at Dogville, Birth and now Fur... they are all very unique, small and visionary... not the blockbuster movies the audience is used to.

And I would say it's not only Nicole, also other established actresses fail with unusual independent films... look at Reese Witherspoon (Vanity Fair), Sandra Bullock (Infamous), Julia Roberts (Closer), Natalie Portman (FreeZone), Kate Winslet (Romance and Cigarettes) or Cate Blanchett (Little Fish).

Beside this fact Nicole also had successs at the box office... Cold Mountain, Interpreter, Happy Feet... and I think that His Dark Materials: Golden Compass and Australia will be very big at the BO for sure happy.gif
Wiggleurnose
I think too much emphasis is placed on a stars bankability. I don't think Fur would do any better if any other actress played Diane Arbus.
skankyoldwhore
QUOTE(gracie @ Nov 26 2006, 07:58 PM)
I spent Thanksgiving week in Dallas, Texas.  The Dallas newspaper included Fur in a write up of current releases.  Only one theater in Dallas had Fur and the only screenings were in the afternoon (two), no evening screenings. 

There were also no advertisements for Fur as there were for other current releases.    At this rate, Fur will never make money.  I know for Nicole that is not the main purpose, but it seems as if making a little profit and having a little more box office success would be nice.
Also, I don't understand why other actresses of her calibre are making movies that are successful at the box office and Nicole has had mostly box office flops in the last three/four years.  What does this do to her "bankability" and also, don't all actors need a little affirmation for their work?  I kind of feel a little concerned about Nicole with the lack of affirmation in her work.

Since I did not have time to see Fur in Dallas, I guess I'll have to wait till the DVD comes out also, like most of you will have to.

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Nicole has never had any box office hits maybe apart from Batman, The Others. She doesn't do well in domestic BO but she has her hits overseas and most of these actresses who do well at the domestic BO are not so lucky overseas and despite all appearances, that's where it counts. I don't know any actress of her calibre who is doing well at the BO apart from Jodie Foster, and despite her movies being considered as flops, they are actually not. The only real flops she has had in the last 3 or 4 years have been The Stepford Wives, The Human Stain. Bewitched and The Interpreter may not have been blockbusters but they made their money back even Birth made its money back. This is the way her career has been since she got into Hollywood, she has never been bankable or have people flock to see her movies, the funny thing is that she can now actually open a movie in the $20m range with her Hollywood fares, something she's never been able to do before. She may not be able to give her movies legs but she can open them, now. If you take her total tally at the BO, she is one of the better performers. She is the 67th most bankable star and that's without having appeared as a character in a recurring franchise or real blockbuster apart from Batman Forever. Despite not having hits in the last 2 years, Joel Silver still paid her $15m for The Visiting/Invasion. Nicole's image as an actress is not of "likeability or ease", the kind of ease that draws a crowd and create hits.

Perhaps a lack of bankability may stop her appearing in Hollywood fares that don't work because frankly, Hollywood fares are not what has made her career and perhaps giving them a miss will strengthen the career she is striving for or picking better Hollywood mainstream scripts will help. She needs to make mainstream movies that are critically supported, that is when she will have hits. If critics don't support her movies, people won't see them because she does not have the audience.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/people/?view=...er=DESC&&p=.htm
scarlett
QUOTE(skankyoldwhore @ Nov 26 2006, 09:43 AM)
Nicole has never had any box office hits maybe apart from Batman, The Others.  She doesn't do well in domestic BO but she has her hits overseas and most of these actresses who do well at the domestic BO are not so lucky overseas and despite all appearances, that's where it counts.  I don't know any actress of her calibre who is doing well at the BO apart from Jodie Foster, and despite her movies being considered as flops, they are actually not.  The only real flops she has had in the last 3 or 4 years have been The Stepford Wives, The Human Stain.  Bewitched and The Interpreter may not have been blockbusters but they made their money back even Birth made its money back.  This is the way her career has been since she got into Hollywood, she has never been bankable or have people flock to see her movies, the funny thing is that she can now actually open a movie in the $20m range with her Hollywood fares, something she's never been able to do before.  She may not be able to give her movies legs but she can open them, now.  If you take her total tally at the BO, she is one of the better performers.  She is the 67th most bankable star and that's without having appeared as a character in a recurring franchise or real blockbuster apart from Batman Forever.  Despite not having hits in the last 2 years, Joel Silver still paid her $15m for The Visiting/Invasion.  Nicole's image as an actress is not of "likeability or ease", the kind of ease that draws a crowd and create hits.

Perhaps a lack of bankability may stop her appearing in Hollywood fares that don't work because frankly, Hollywood fares are not what has made her career and perhaps giving them a miss will strengthen the career she is striving for or picking better Hollywood mainstream scripts will help.  She needs to make mainstream movies that are critically supported, that is when she will have hits.  If critics don't support her movies, people won't see them because she does not have the audience.
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Good points, Skanky. thumbsup.gif I would only add that as much of a risk-taker as she is, even if she picked a no-brainer with commercial appeal-there are still no assurances of success. What looks great on paper may not end up transfering well to the big screen -even with the most trusted/talented director at the helm.
NMK612
QUOTE(Grace Margaret Mulligan @ Nov 12 2006, 05:03 PM)
it will be interesting once it is released all over the us.
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when is that going to be!? I can't hold out much longer lol lol.gif
gracie
Thanks, Skanky! Good points....I also looked at the box office link on stars' rankings based on their total earnings, etc. It was very interesting.

Thanks also lowresist and wiggleurnose!

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Grace Margaret Mulligan
QUOTE(scarlett @ Nov 26 2006, 05:18 PM)
Good points, Skanky. thumbsup.gif I would only add that as much of a risk-taker as she is, even if she picked a no-brainer with  commercial appeal-there are still no assurances of success. What looks great on paper may not end up  transfering well to the big screen -even with the most trusted/talented director at the helm.
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see bewitched...

but still, skanky very well said clap.gif
scarlett
QUOTE(Grace Margaret Mulligan @ Nov 26 2006, 06:21 PM)
see bewitched...

but still, skanky very well said  clap.gif
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GMM- did Bewitched look good on paper? lol.gif Who really knows! Maybe it was a script malfunction after the commitment...still....I didn't think it was so very bad but it was our witchy Nic so I was ok with 'what it was'. lol.gif

And another point (I seem to have too much to say of late), maybe the lighthearted genre filled a void in her life at that time- or perhaps, as I'm prone to also, it was just a fanciful whim with fond memories reenforcing the decision to do it.

Ah, I am tired and perhaps I've gotten too cryptic now. lol.gif huggle.gif
gracie
I wonder if more than 39 theaters in the U.S. would be interested in showing Fur. It seems like there would be a few more but maybe not.

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scarlett
QUOTE(gracie @ Nov 28 2006, 09:28 PM)
I wonder if more than 39 theaters in the U.S. would be interested in showing Fur.  It seems like there would be a few more but maybe not.   

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perhaps it was a limited release that was expected to grow marginally as word of mouth grew. Perhaps that's not meant to happen...
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